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King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5

205 games from Lichess · Updated January 2026

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White expected score · All ratings · All speeds

52.9%

40%65%
Floor47.2%

the worst score you would still get, 90% confident. At best 58.6%.

Measured over 205 games at this level and clock.

Tough Sellloses more often than it wins at this level

A strong choice for White at this level and clock.

Outcomes for White

Draw 4.6 · Score = win + ½ of the draws · 205 games

Rank among the families White can choose here
not ranked — this is a variation, not a family
Games in this context
205
Best context
not measured yet
Average game length
36 moves
Games that end decisively
95.4%
Draws
4.6%

Best and worst are the strongest and weakest squares with at least 500 games behind them. The table further down shows every square, including thinner ones.

Where it holds · White score by rating × clock

Green is clearly ahead for White, grey is around even, red is behind. Tap a cell to measure there, and again to clear. It falls away as the rating rises: 70.0% at 1400-1599, 59.9% at 2500+.

RatingUBBulleBlitzRapidClass
0-999
1000-1199
1200-1399
1400-1599
1600-1799
1800-1999
2000-2199
2200-2499
2500+

Expected score matrix by rating bracket and time control

  • 1400-1599 rating, Blitz: 70.0% expected score (1 games)
  • 1600-1799 rating, Bullet: 50.0% expected score (6 games)
  • 1600-1799 rating, Blitz: 27.8% expected score (3 games)
  • 1600-1799 rating, Rapid: 21.5% expected score (2 games)
  • 1800-1999 rating, Bullet: 46.6% expected score (13 games)
  • 1800-1999 rating, Blitz: 46.8% expected score (29 games)
  • 1800-1999 rating, Rapid: 40.9% expected score (4 games)
  • 2000-2199 rating, Bullet: 58.2% expected score (17 games)
  • 2000-2199 rating, Blitz: 54.3% expected score (45 games)
  • 2000-2199 rating, Rapid: 67.4% expected score (10 games)
  • 2200-2499 rating, Bullet: 66.5% expected score (35 games)
  • 2200-2499 rating, Blitz: 37.3% expected score (26 games)
  • 2200-2499 rating, Rapid: 50.0% expected score (2 games)
  • 2500+ rating, Bullet: 59.6% expected score (9 games)
  • 2500+ rating, Blitz: 50.0% expected score (2 games)
  • 2500+ rating, Rapid: 70.0% expected score (1 games)

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Methodology

Across every rating and clock, the King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5 scores 52.9% for White — we are 90% confident the real figure is between 47.2% and 58.6% — from 205 Lichess games. Win rate, draw rate and loss rate come from games played December 2023 to November 2025.

How the figures are made
Whose games these are
205+ rated games played on Lichess (2023-12 to 2025-11). The games are Lichess’s and free for anyone to use. What is ours is the reading of them. Last rebuilt January 2026.
Which games we count
  • Rated games only — nothing casual.
  • Both players within 200 rating points of each other. A mismatch tells you about the gap, not about the opening.
  • At least 2 moves played.
  • A game is filed under White’s rating.
Why every number comes with a range
A number off a few hundred games is a guess. The same number off millions is a fact. The range is what tells them apart, and it is what the lists rank on — so an opening cannot reach the top on a lucky run of forty games. The more games behind a figure, the narrower its range.
How much we need before we say anything
An opening page needs 100 games. A gambit needs 50 games at a rating before we will say whether it pays there. The chaos and trap lists need 500 games overall and 250 games at one rating or clock.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5 win rate?

Playing the King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5, White wins 50.6%, draws 4.6% and loses 44.8%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 52.9%. It rests on 205 rated games from Lichess.

At what rating does the King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5 perform best?

The King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5 performs best for White at 2000-2199, with an Expected Score of 57.5% (72 games) and the highest Floor of any rating with enough games to read.

How sharp is the King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5?

The King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5 has a sharpness score of 95.4 (very decisive), meaning 95.4% of games end decisively. Average game length is 36 moves.

What is the King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5 win rate in Blitz?

In Blitz, White wins 45.1%, draws 4.2% and loses 50.7%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 47.2%. It rests on 106 Lichess games.

Is the King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5 a good opening?

The King's Indian Defense: Sämisch Variation, with Bg5 is hard work for White — it favours Black. Across all ratings, White wins 50.6% of its games and loses 44.8%. It performs best at 2000-2199. Your results depend on your rating, time control, and how well you know the typical plans.