Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian
89K games from Lichess · Updated January 2026
Black expected score · All ratings · All speeds
47.3%
the worst score you would still get, 90% confident. At best 47.6%.
Measured over 89K games at this level and clock.
Black comes out behind here — there are better weapons in the list.
Outcomes for Black
Draw 4.6 · Score = win + ½ of the draws · 89K games
- Rank among the families Black can choose here
- not ranked — this is a variation, not a family
- Games in this context
- 89K
- Best context
- 49.1% at 1000-1199 Blitz
- Worst context
- 41.4% at 2500+ Bullet
- Average game length
- 37 moves
- Games that end decisively
- 95.4%
- Draws
- 4.6%
Best and worst are the strongest and weakest squares with at least 500 games behind them. The table further down shows every square, including thinner ones.
Extra Analysis
Deep-dive datasets for this opening
Where it holds · Black score by rating × clock
Green is clearly ahead for Black, grey is around even, red is behind. Tap a cell to measure there, and again to clear. It falls away as the rating rises: 47.0% at 0-999, 39.8% at 2500+.
| Rating | UB | Bulle | Blitz | Rapid | Class |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0-999 | — | — | |||
| 1000-1199 | |||||
| 1200-1399 | |||||
| 1400-1599 | |||||
| 1600-1799 | |||||
| 1800-1999 | |||||
| 2000-2199 | |||||
| 2200-2499 | |||||
| 2500+ | — |
Expected score matrix by rating bracket and time control
- 0-999 rating, Bullet: 48.6% expected score (315 games)
- 0-999 rating, Blitz: 47.6% expected score (501 games)
- 0-999 rating, Rapid: 44.8% expected score (84 games)
- 1000-1199 rating, UltraBullet: 50.0% expected score (2 games)
- 1000-1199 rating, Bullet: 48.1% expected score (1,069 games)
- 1000-1199 rating, Blitz: 49.1% expected score (1,615 games)
- 1000-1199 rating, Rapid: 48.9% expected score (354 games)
- 1000-1199 rating, Classical: 30.0% expected score (1 games)
- 1200-1399 rating, UltraBullet: 73.3% expected score (35 games)
- 1200-1399 rating, Bullet: 48.0% expected score (2,228 games)
- 1200-1399 rating, Blitz: 47.9% expected score (3,510 games)
- 1200-1399 rating, Rapid: 47.5% expected score (867 games)
- 1200-1399 rating, Classical: 45.8% expected score (22 games)
- 1400-1599 rating, UltraBullet: 46.5% expected score (139 games)
- 1400-1599 rating, Bullet: 48.5% expected score (3,717 games)
- 1400-1599 rating, Blitz: 48.5% expected score (6,052 games)
- 1400-1599 rating, Rapid: 47.9% expected score (1,829 games)
- 1400-1599 rating, Classical: 45.0% expected score (68 games)
- 1600-1799 rating, UltraBullet: 54.5% expected score (359 games)
- 1600-1799 rating, Bullet: 48.7% expected score (5,615 games)
- 1600-1799 rating, Blitz: 46.9% expected score (7,917 games)
- 1600-1799 rating, Rapid: 47.0% expected score (2,458 games)
- 1600-1799 rating, Classical: 33.7% expected score (158 games)
- 1800-1999 rating, UltraBullet: 40.3% expected score (262 games)
- 1800-1999 rating, Bullet: 48.5% expected score (7,224 games)
- 1800-1999 rating, Blitz: 48.0% expected score (8,935 games)
- 1800-1999 rating, Rapid: 46.8% expected score (2,410 games)
- 1800-1999 rating, Classical: 37.9% expected score (126 games)
- 2000-2199 rating, UltraBullet: 40.0% expected score (78 games)
- 2000-2199 rating, Bullet: 47.1% expected score (7,735 games)
- 2000-2199 rating, Blitz: 47.6% expected score (7,317 games)
- 2000-2199 rating, Rapid: 42.1% expected score (1,157 games)
- 2000-2199 rating, Classical: 33.1% expected score (31 games)
- 2200-2499 rating, UltraBullet: 27.2% expected score (16 games)
- 2200-2499 rating, Bullet: 44.6% expected score (6,278 games)
- 2200-2499 rating, Blitz: 47.0% expected score (5,484 games)
- 2200-2499 rating, Rapid: 48.4% expected score (628 games)
- 2200-2499 rating, Classical: 57.7% expected score (5 games)
- 2500+ rating, UltraBullet: 42.4% expected score (5 games)
- 2500+ rating, Bullet: 41.4% expected score (1,305 games)
- 2500+ rating, Blitz: 41.4% expected score (764 games)
- 2500+ rating, Rapid: 34.2% expected score (30 games)
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Methodology
Across every rating and clock, the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian scores 47.3% for Black — we are 90% confident the real figure is between 47.0% and 47.6% — from 89K Lichess games. Win rate, draw rate and loss rate come from games played December 2023 to November 2025.
How the figures are made
- Whose games these are
- 89K+ rated games played on Lichess (2023-12 to 2025-11). The games are Lichess’s and free for anyone to use. What is ours is the reading of them. Last rebuilt January 2026.
- Which games we count
- Rated games only — nothing casual.
- Both players within 200 rating points of each other. A mismatch tells you about the gap, not about the opening.
- At least 2 moves played.
- A game is filed under White’s rating.
- Why every number comes with a range
- A number off a few hundred games is a guess. The same number off millions is a fact. The range is what tells them apart, and it is what the lists rank on — so an opening cannot reach the top on a lucky run of forty games. The more games behind a figure, the narrower its range.
- How much we need before we say anything
- An opening page needs 100 games. A gambit needs 50 games at a rating before we will say whether it pays there. The chaos and trap lists need 500 games overall and 250 games at one rating or clock.
Frequently Asked Questions
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate?
Playing the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian, Black wins 44.9%, draws 4.6% and loses 50.4%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 47.3%. It rests on 89K rated games from Lichess.
At what rating does the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian perform best?
The Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian performs best for Black at 1400-1599, with an Expected Score of 48.3% (12K games) and the highest Floor of any rating with enough games to read.
Is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian better in blitz or rapid?
For Black, the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian scores about the same in both: an Expected Score of 47.6% in Blitz (42K games) against 46.7% in Rapid (9.8K games).
How sharp is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian?
The Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian has a sharpness score of 95.4 (very decisive), meaning 95.4% of games end decisively. Average game length is 37 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 0-999?
At 0-999, Black wins 46.3%, draws 2.6% and loses 51.1%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 47.6%. It rests on 900 Lichess games, which average 28 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 1000-1199?
At 1000-1199, Black wins 47.2%, draws 3.0% and loses 49.8%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 48.7%. It rests on 3.0K Lichess games, which average 30 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 1200-1399?
At 1200-1399, Black wins 46.4%, draws 3.1% and loses 50.4%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 48.0%. It rests on 6.7K Lichess games, which average 32 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 1400-1599?
At 1400-1599, Black wins 46.4%, draws 3.8% and loses 49.8%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 48.3%. It rests on 12K Lichess games, which average 34 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 1600-1799?
At 1600-1799, Black wins 45.5%, draws 4.1% and loses 50.4%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 47.6%. It rests on 17K Lichess games, which average 36 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 1800-1999?
At 1800-1999, Black wins 45.4%, draws 4.8% and loses 49.8%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 47.8%. It rests on 19K Lichess games, which average 37 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 2000-2199?
At 2000-2199, Black wins 44.3%, draws 5.1% and loses 50.6%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 46.9%. It rests on 16K Lichess games, which average 38 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 2200-2499?
At 2200-2499, Black wins 42.6%, draws 6.5% and loses 51.0%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 45.8%. It rests on 12K Lichess games, which average 40 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate at 2500+?
At 2500+, Black wins 37.7%, draws 7.1% and loses 55.2%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 41.3%. It rests on 2.1K Lichess games, which average 42 moves.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate in UltraBullet?
In UltraBullet, Black wins 46.6%, draws 2.6% and loses 50.8%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 47.9%. It rests on 896 Lichess games.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate in Bullet?
In Bullet, Black wins 45.3%, draws 3.9% and loses 50.9%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 47.2%. It rests on 35K Lichess games.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate in Blitz?
In Blitz, Black wins 45.0%, draws 5.1% and loses 49.9%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 47.6%. It rests on 42K Lichess games.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate in Rapid?
In Rapid, Black wins 43.9%, draws 5.6% and loses 50.6%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 46.7%. It rests on 9.8K Lichess games.
What is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian win rate in Classical?
In Classical, Black wins 34.5%, draws 5.9% and loses 59.5%. Counting a draw as half a point, that is an Expected Score of 37.5%. It rests on 411 Lichess games.
Is the Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian a good opening?
The Old Indian Defense: Tartakower-Indian is hard work for Black — it favours White. Across all ratings, Black wins 44.9% of its games and loses 50.4%. It performs best at 1400-1599. Your results depend on your rating, time control, and how well you know the typical plans.