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Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation

White Gambit

Source Lichess

You play
Play Thiswins clearly more often than it loses at this level
All Ratings
Edge at worst+14.4%

White wins at least 14.4 more of every 100 games than it loses

how far wins run ahead of losses, 90% confident

Rating TrendPeak: +19.1% at 2500+
1600-17992500+
Win%57.2%
Games1.6K
Breakpoint1600-1799first rating it isn't shown winning more than losing
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Does Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation work for White at All Ratings?

Snapshot

At All Ratings, Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation keeps White's wins running +14.4% ahead of its losses at worst, 90% confident, from 1.6K Lichess games. This gambit is effective. Win rate, draw rate and loss rate come from games played December 2023 to November 2025.

RatingEdge at worstWhite WinDrawWhite LossGames
1600-1799−11.0%51.1%2.2%46.7%111
1800-1999+14.3%59.6%3.2%37.1%385
2000-2199+8.3%55.9%3.8%40.3%484
2200-2499+8.0%55.2%5.0%39.8%487
2500++19.1%63.2%5.7%31.1%148
Full Opening StatsSee rating/time-control breakdowns for White on the opening stats page
Analyze Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation PositionsGet move-by-move win rates with the TrueElo analyzer

Frequently Asked Questions

Is the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation sound?

At some ratings. White comes out ahead at 1800+; at the other ratings we can see, the games do not show it paying. Where it pays changes with the clock, so set yours above and look again.

What is the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation win rate?

White wins 57.2% of Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation games, draws 3.9% and loses 38.8%. That rests on 1.6K games from Lichess.

What is the best rating to play the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation?

2500+. There White wins at least 19.1 more of every 100 games than it loses (90% confident), its highest Edge at worst.

Is the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation better in blitz or rapid?

Blitz. For White, the Edge at worst — how far wins run ahead of losses, 90% confident — is +14.2% in Blitz (1.0K games) and −27.5% in Rapid (112 games).

Does the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation breakpoint vary by time control?

Yes. The first rating where the games do not show White coming out ahead is 1600-1799 in Blitz. In Bullet, White comes out ahead at every rating we can see.

How sharp is the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation?

The Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation is extremely sharp: 3.9% of its games are drawn, so 96.1% end with a winner.

Should I play the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation?

At 1800+, where White comes out ahead. At the other ratings we can see, the games do not show it paying. Where it pays changes with the clock, so set yours above and look again.

How do I defend against the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation?

As Black, take the material, then develop fast, castle early, and trade pieces. Give the material back when doing so kills the attack. At 1800+, White still comes out ahead in these games; at the other ratings we can see, the games do not show the gambit paying.

How reliable is the Vienna Gambit, with Max Lange Defense: Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit, Thorold Variation data?

This rests on 1.6K games from Lichess. Every figure carries the range it is in, 90% confident, and the table above shows how many games sit behind each rating and each clock — the fewer there are, the wider that range.